Nutritious Junk and Hungry Waif

by workoutmommy on February 27, 2008

Let’s talk food again!

waif.jpgHungry Waif is the author of two great blogs: Nutritious Junk and This Waif Cooks. She is currently a student in culinary school and graciously allowed me to pick her brain about restaurants and food in general.

Here are a few key points from our conversation:

  • at a restaurant, steamed veggies are usually not as healthy as we think. (sigh)
  • making brownies with spinach and blueberry puree might be healthier for my kids, but it doesn’t help them in the long run.
  • If I have a problem with my meal at a restaurant, I should send it back right away, not after I have eaten most of it!
  • I learned a new favorite term for unhealthy food items: nutritionally void. Love it! Those Girl Scout cookies were definitely nutritionally void!
  • others enjoy watching ‘Family Guy’ too!

Here is the full interview:

Q: What is your favorite healthy meal?

Hmm, its hard to choose a favorite, its like choosing a favorite child! well I love shrimp which are high in protein and fairly lean (although not great in cholesterol but hey its all about moderation)and I am a cereal fanatic and actually, my favorite ones are really high in fiber and healthy like Fiber One and Kashi Go Lean.

Q: How do you keep yourself from overeating all the delicious food items that you cook?

Well, when I first started culinary school, we learned very basic things like hollandaise and rice and such so I wasn’t really having trouble staying away from simple stuff like that. Now that I started making really beautiful danishes and pretzels in my baking class, I do taste my products (a good chef should taste everything he does) but I stress TASTE. Taste is not to devour the 24oz over sized croissant. I know some people can’t just have a few bites of delicious, rich food and set it down, but I can because if its good, a few bites will satisfy. I also go with my mantra that I never settle to eat less than great food, so if my food turn out not so good, I chuck it (or more often, give it away).


Q: When going out to a restaurant, what should I look for in terms of eating healthy? Are there any menu items that are deceptively unhealthy? (are those steamed veggies I get really steamed?)

For meats, look for the key word “loin”, like beef tenderloin or sirloin, or pork loin, both fairly lean cuts of meat that’s rich in iron, protein, and B vitamins. Sauces are a killer, all the sauces we’ve made are usually reduction of the fat from the main item, salt, wine (or some type of alcohol), and at the very end a mounting of butter for smoothness and shine. Doesn’t mean your dish needs to be naked but be wary not to drench your food in it. I hate it when people get all dolled up and shell out a lot to eat at a nice place and order a simple salad. Even if you like salad, you’re going out and should really order something special. Veggies usually are steamed but then tossed in butter and salt (every dish I’ve had to make in culinary school called for that step in preparing “steamed veggies”). I am not sure if all restaurants do this so it doesn’t hurt to ask. Of course stick to grilled, broiled, steamed, or poaches items and obviously, anything fried or even pan fried is bound to carry a halo of grease around it.

Q: I used to work at a chain restaurant and realized the grilled chicken was always “grilled” right next to the hamburgers, so it was absorbing a lot of beef fat. Is this the case in most restaurants?

Some, depending on the restaurant. Diners that serve a lot of burgers vs chicken might do this, but maybe more upscale places might have a separate “region” of the grill for chicken. However, if they are being sanitary, they should brush off the grill between items (the Hawaiians use half an onion for this method which is a great trick if you don’t want to re-oil the grill!)

Q: Veggies, how can I get more of them into my family!? What do you think of the books such as “Deceptively Delicious” and “The Sneaky Chef”, that use vegetable purees hidden in common foods?

Oh, I’ve posted about this on nutritious junk. I’ve flipped through both and it’s creative, I give them props for that and I think its a cool trick for adults to try, but not a good tool for “sneaking veggies” into your kids. What I love about kids is that their minds have so much room for development because they haven’t experienced as much as adults so it is a great time to introduce new flavors. I think if we just get rid of the “veggies are gross” stigma, kids realize they are indeed delicious. I don’t like lacing things into such naive people. Plus, they might get used to the idea that brownies are super healthy cause mommy’s always making me eat it, that they’ll go to the real world where brownies are made with trans fats instead of prune puree.

Q: As a chef, what is your biggest pet peeve about customers? (so I know not to do it in the future!)

Well I am not really a chef yet and I’ve never had a paying customer eat my food (although my sushi take-out place “pays” me in tuna rolls for my sourdough breads!). But I know my chef instructor told me that he’s totally fine when food gets sent back, but not when it is half eaten! I get that, so if you don’t like something, don’t decide after you finished half the plate before requesting something else.

Q: What food or type of food would you choose if calories and fat were not an issue?

Hmm, well most of the food I love is actually fairly healthy but I guess funnel cake with strawberries! yea, I think thats the most nutritionally void food I love.

Q: Are there any foods or meals that you have banned from your diet?

Well not really because I think banning, of any kind, only leaves you with a desire to rebel in the future. Moderation, as cliche and overused as it sounds, it a good mantra, and anyhow, I truly believe good quality food is not unhealthy. There is no “bad” or “good”, every food has its place some higher on the scale, some lower, some we should eat more often and some we should moderate. But I guess the one thing I really haven’t had in a while is real sugared soda. I think most people would agree with me that traditional HFCS sweetened soda is a highly empty calorie item.

Q: And one random question: what is your favorite TV show?

Man, well aside from going to culinary school, I am also an actress so I am quite the film and TV critic! I love seemingly “unscripted” shows like “Curb Your Enthusiasm” and “The Office”. I don’t relish into reality TV too much but I love Top Chef (go figure) and Project Runway. but you know what, if I really had to narrow it down, it would be Family Guy. I know it is very “guy” sleaze humor, but I can’t sit through an episode with a straight face! I tried watching it once while I was working out on the treadmill and I just couldn’t do it ’cause I laughed so often!

Thanks Waif!

{ 16 comments }

Cindy February 27, 2008 at 10:57 am

I hadn’t thought about the “hiding” veggies in different dishes in this manner. It’s a great observation. I’ve found that my little ones go through different phrases. Sometimes they can’t wait to eat the salad, other times, they won’t take a bite. We try not to make eating veggies any different than the other foods on their plate and that seems to work for us.

I struggle regularly to avoid the nutritionally void foods or just stop at a “taste.” I really enjoyed the interview!

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Alyssa February 27, 2008 at 11:35 am

I LOVE her blogs!

I have both books, and I like them. They advocate being honest with your kids, and letting them know (sometimes after the fact) that there are veggies in the treats. And they also advocate serving a side of veggies with the meal. You can also explain that the brownies at the bake sale are yummy, but not the same as Mom and Dad’s healthy brownies.

I guess my situation is a little different. My kids both have Autism, so there are issues with foods’ textures. My son loves salad, but my daughter can’t handle the texture of raw lettuce. She’ll eat cooked spinach, but my son won’t go near it. So “sneaking” the good stuff in is sometimes the ONLY way I can get them to eat certain things.

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Kelly February 27, 2008 at 2:25 pm

I loved this interview, but now I’m scared to eat out!
I have been ordering steamed veggies and grilled chicken when we go out and thinking I’m being so good. I guess it is better than deep-fried things and fries.
And I am losing weight!

Also, I love the Family Guy. I almost listed that as a guilty pleasure on my own blog yesterday. It’s so inappropriate sometimes, but I laugh every time I watch. Awesome.

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Hungry Waif February 27, 2008 at 3:03 pm

Obviously Alyssa, when your kids have serious love/hate relationships with textures and what not, i am all for doing anything to get the healthy stuff in them. Its just that i dont think veggies and frutis should be hidden, they should have some pride, no? i mean they are colorful and actually delicious. I think the books are creative for adults trying to make classic dishes a bit healthier thought. A neat trick (not in the books) is to sub avocado in cookie recipes for butter. i know, sounds gross and i actually HATE avocado, but it makes for a delicious, chewy, moist and lower fat cookie!

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Stephanie Quilao February 27, 2008 at 4:16 pm

Awesome, awesome post! I really learned a great deal. I’m a huge fan of the nutritionally void funnel cake as well. Never knew about the “loin” thing. Great tip!

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Alyssa February 27, 2008 at 4:26 pm

Avocados in cookies?!?!?!?! Woo-hoo! You just made my month!!!!!!!

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KFJ February 27, 2008 at 4:43 pm

Good stuff…It seems the more I offer fruits and veggies to my kids, they become more receptive….I try to always have them visible and available. I still have the same issues…sometimes they are just NOT interested. I also feel the more they see me eating them, the easier it is to get them to eat them.

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Wifey's House February 27, 2008 at 6:22 pm

Great information! I’m looking forward to checking out her blogs. And, Family Guy is classic laugh out loud funny!

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Hungry Waif February 27, 2008 at 7:10 pm

I know the avocado tip is crazy, but i promise, give it a try, its weird i like most health food but not avocado! I dont have kids, but i feel that if you also present healthy foods in a gorgeous way, they’ll love it. Strangely enough, sometimes, its really easy to make unhealthy food look kinda gross (limp fries? mushed up chocolate cake that looks like, well, you know what?). Fresh fruits and veggies look like a rainbow!

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workoutmommy February 27, 2008 at 9:18 pm

Waif, I love the idea of avocado in the cookies! How much do I use in place of butter?

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WeightingGame February 28, 2008 at 10:41 am

the steamed veggie thing is disheartening but so true. I’ve done undercover-type stories for work where I’ll order, say, the grilled chix and steamed brocolli and it comes out literally glistening in butter. I said to the waitress, “Is this steamed or does it have butter on it?” She said, “Oh, did you just want it steamed?” Um, yes, that’s why I ordered the STEAMED BROC!

I also remember working in restaurants and learning that a) eggplant can soak up an insane amount of oil and still taste normal and b) may chefs will “finish” meals, from beef to pasta to fish, with a big dollop o’ bitter. Makes it taste and look extra good. Hungry Waif, have you heard of this practice?

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Hungry Waif February 28, 2008 at 2:33 pm

o yes, its called “monte au buerre”, french for to mount with butter. the instructors at my school say is a classic chefs trick but also a way to get mediocre food thats cheaper taste better (hmm, really makes you think twice about overpriced broccoli…). I promise if i ever open a resturant, steam will be STEAMED, butte and salt will merely be an option ON THE SIDE.

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Liberty February 28, 2008 at 7:30 pm

Great interview! Can’t wait to check out Waif’s blogs. I’ve always kinda sorta wanted to be a chef, but I hate the smell and taste of seafood and having to physically touch raw meat to prepare it wigs me out, so, uh, not sure that’s a great career choice for me. ;)

I’ll remember to watch for glistening broc – great tip!

And I’m ever so thankful my little ‘uns like their veggies. That’s a battle I’ve never had to fight. Good thing since pureed blueberries seem like a lot of work! ;)

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Hungry Waif March 1, 2008 at 5:24 pm

I hear about people’s inner aspirations to someday go to culinary school daily, but they are quick to repress it with some sort of excuse like money, career, kids, etc..Its sad because people who go (and dont drop out immedietly) love it and relish it and think its one of the best decisions they ever did. Even if you dont really want to work in a resturant (like me), I was in a big university studying mundane and boring things that was making me so unhappy to get up in the morning. I think I’ll write a post on “this waif cooks” (since i like to save Nutrtious Junk for food/fitness reviews) on whether or not culinary school is a good fit for you. thanks for the compliments guys! i dont take them very well, but I used to get such nasty comment when i first started NJ that i really appreciate the positive feedback!

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MizFit March 4, 2008 at 6:15 am

the avocado works amazingly H.W.
why is it such a well kept secret!?

MizFit

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Katieo March 4, 2008 at 9:45 am

Awesome interview!
I feel the same about the deceptively delicious concept. I don’t think it’s a bad thing for once in awhile, but I want my kids to get used to SEEING the veggies they’re eating. (We still have a long way to go)

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